by Sven Magnussen
RE: Bill O'Reilly, Fox News, on The O'Reilly Factor editorializes on the need for President Obama to disclose the U.S. Government assistance he has received as he rose to power to become the Commander in Chief of the United States of America and President of the United States.
In a blog post and on his Fox News television show, The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly said:
But President Obama himself has a very compelling story to tell. His father abandoned him. He was raised primarily by his maternal grandparents in Hawaii. He had few resources. Yet, Barack Obama rose up to become the most powerful man in the world, a stunning achievement. How much the system helped Mr. Obama is unknown, as his college records have been kept private. We don't know the extent of affirmative action. We don't know how much the government subsidized his climb to the top. It would be very helpful to have that information simply to be fair to the President and his vision.
In truth, Obama's background is more than compelling. It's a tragedy. In 1971, Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, arrived at Hawaii International Airport as an unaccompanied minor with Indonesian Nationality. Minors with foreign nationality are not whisked through customs with a hope and a prayer by customs officers the child will not become a victim of child trafficking. Unaccompanied minors with foreign nationality arriving at any port of entry in the U.S. are taken into protective custody and held until a child welfare hearing is held to determine what is in the best interest of the child.
We know from Obama's vital statistics, published and archived by the Hawaii Department of Health, he was born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961 as the son of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham. The Soetoro adoption was finalized in Hawaii after Lolo and Stanley Ann were wed. Obama's original long form birth certificate was sealed and archived after a Court order to seal it. A Certificate of Live Birth for Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, was created and filed as part of the finalized adoption order.
In 1968, Secretary of State Dean Rusk issued Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama II, a Certificate of Loss of Nationality so Barry Soetoro could naturalize as an Indonesian National. Obama's mother had attested on her U.S. Passport renewal she intended to stay in Indonesia indefinately (sic). In 1971, Barry Soetoro was taken into protective custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. His legal custody was transferred to Catholic Social Services of Connecticut while his grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, was appointed his legal guardian.
Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was under contract the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to provide child welfare services for minors with foreign nationality in 1971. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is discharged with the duty of administering the Federal Foster Care program. Catholic Social Services of Connecticut and Lutheran Social Services were the only contractors with DHHS in 1971. Obama entered the Federal Foster Care program in 1971 and was not discharged from the child welfare program for foreign nationals until he reached the age of majority, 18 years-old, August 4, 1979.
Shortly after Obama arrived in Hawaii and was taken into Federal Foster Care, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro and Barack Hussein Obama Sr. returned to Hawaii to appear at a child custody hearing. It was at this hearing Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro testified Barry Soetoro, a/k/a/ Barack Hussein Obama II, was not the son Barack Hussein Obama Sr. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. had returned to Hawaii at the request of the U.S. State Department to testify he was the birth father of Barack Hussein Obama II, he was not informed nor did he consent to the Soetoro adoption, and he sought to have the Soetoro adoption annulled to have his parental rights restored.
The Court ruled the Soetoro adoption was annulled, the Barry Soetoro Certificate of Live Birth was sealed and archived and a new Certificate of Live Birth was to be filed by the Hawaii Department of Health with Barack Hussein Obama Sr. as the paternal parent of Barack Hussein Obama II. Furthermore, the Court remanded the custody of Barack Hussein Obama II to Catholic Social Services of Connecticut with Madelyn Payne Dunham to remain as his guardian. The Court ordered the original long form birth certificate to remain sealed and archived because Obama's mother had testified in Court she lied in 1961 when she stated Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was not the birth father. The Court was not moved by her testimony and Ordered the original to remained sealed.
Catholic Social Services of Connecticut, under contract with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, was the sole financial supporter of Barack Hussein Obama II for the next eight years. Although Obama's legal name had been changed to Barack Hussein Obama II when the Soetoro adoption was annulled, his Indonesian nationality remained intact. Obama was living in the U.S. as a Permanent Resident Alien, green card holder, until 1983. In 1983, Obama naturalized as a U.S. citizen. As a naturalized U.S. citizen, Obama is ineligible to be President of the United States.
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Too bad this is all speculation, and non of which can be proven by anyone who has legal access to any of the alleged documents.
March 21, 2013 at 11:58 PM
Too bad everything about Obama is speculation that can not be proven. Why is Sven's narrative so hard to accept as a possibility. To me it seems more reasonable than most. Just because it does not fit the other floated narratives does not make it unworthy of consideration.
Sven's opposition seems to think that his ideas are unbelievable yet no one has gotten any further with the various other scenarios.
I would try to obtain something from the Catholic social Services. There must be old paperwork somewhere. At least it isn't Gov't where all has been destroyed or altered.
Obama's immigration files are available, but are concealed to protect his privacy. Obama's SS-5 and NUMIDENT file are available, but concealed to protect his privacy.
Obama's SS-5 was filed on his behalf by Catholic Social Services of Connecticut. At the time, Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was under contract with HHS to provide legal custodian services for unaccompanied minors with foreign nationality.
Nice try.. I seems that you are trying to explain obama's criminal use of a Connecticut SSN never assigned to him. The SSN wasn't issued until 1977 while he was attending high school in Hawaii.
You are correct though, that obama was adopted by Lo Lo Soetoro, his mother's passport information swears to fact Obama lost his U.S. citizenship. He is therefore not an Natural Born Citizen because he did not swear off his Indo acquired citizenship before age 21. Who knows if he ever go back U.S. citizenship and when did he originally get it.
Nice theory. The problem is, you cannot prove one iota of what you wrote, not even by circumstantial evidence.
I'm assuming you have some evidence for all this and you're not simply making it up. No? Didn't think so.
AH, the Connecticutt connection. Other so-called "birther" reports have consistently suggested that Barry was never in Connecticutt and that his being issued a social security card from Connecticutt was prima facie evidence of fraud. However, it still doesn't explain why Barry was issued a social security number to a dead man born in 1890. Would appreciate your response on this. Anybody? Thanks.
Also, I am VERY impressed that O'Reilly has actually done some creditable homework on Barry's background. Still don't respect him, but, hey, he HAS done some checking.
If Obama was really born in Hawaii [and not, say, Vancouver, British Columbia], then nobody is going to fault him for having been born to a nutso-whacko crazy hippy chick [with a really bad Mandingo complex] who dragged him halfway across the world to Indonesia.
He was a minor at the time - there was nothing he could have done about it.
HOWEVER, if the naturalization back to the USA did not occur until 1983, then the infamous 1981 trip to Pakistan would have almost certainly occurred on an Indonesia passport, and we would then have an irrefutable paper trail of evidence that Obama, AS AN ADULT, considered himself to be the subject of a foreign power.
And that simple consideration, in and of itself, would render him completely unfit to pass any sort of constitutional muster as commander-in-chief.
Which, in turn, would explain why Lt Quarles Harris Jr had to join Trinity United Church choir director, Donald Young, in the morgue.
Finally, if true, then the man behind all of this - the man who oversaw the sanitization of the State Department passport files, one John O Brennan - is now the Director of Central Intelligence.
Be afraid, be very, very afraid.
And purchase even more ammunition.
PS: Furthermore, if true, then both Condoleezza Rice and George Bush need to be hanged for treason in this matter.
I came here in 1960 and had a green card, and when I was ready to work I got a social security number of my own! How come he did not! And is using someone else's social sec. number illegally?
His illegal immigrant relatives have fraudulent SS#s issued in CT as well. His uncle had a fraudulent SS# and driver's license from CT.
"We know from Obama's vital statistics, published and archived by the Hawaii Department of Health, he was born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961"
What planet have you been on for the last four years? Apparently Planet Obama-lover.
We know nothing about where Obama was born because no one has been allowed access to the micro-film record, which doesn't record a Hawaiian hospital birth certificate was doesn't exist as was attested to by the Governor who had the archives searched in order to prove that it did existed. So it you are so quick to claim something that is a lie, it's impossible to believe anything else you say, all, like with the birth certificate, without any corroborating evidence.
"Obama's original long form birth certificate was sealed and archived after a Court order to seal it." Please, that's plain dumb. Why would a birth certificate for Obama be sealed, hidden, when there is no one from whom it needs to be hidden and not one who wants it to be hidden? Obama wasn't adopted as a baby by parents who wanted him to believe he was their natural son while hiding the identity of the real mother. Being as you can't and didn't give one single reason to support your false claim that the original was "sealed by a judge", your credibility is zero.
Where is the data? Pure speculation meant to misinform and further muddy the waters.
Our Constitution disqualifies Obama for not being a "natural born citizen" http://youtu.be/esiZZ-1R7e8 born in the nation to citizen parents (plural), pursuant to Article 2, Section 1, intended to exclude citizens harboring foreign allegiance from eligibility.[1]
Obama is British by birth, likely also Kenyan and by adoption perhaps Indonesian, as his father was a British citizen of colonial Kenya, further precluding eligibility pursuant to 1948 British Nationality Act.[2]
Sheriff Arpaio's ongoing investigation released evidence proving Obama's birth certificate is fraudulent! http://youtu.be/alVzyfptF80 This fact, along with Obama's altered Selective Service registration, stolen Social Security number(s) and aliases: Barry Soetoro, Barack Soetoro, Barack Soebarkah, Harrison J. Bounel, suggest he's not even a U.S. citizen!
The Constitution matters!
1. Mario Apuzzo, Esq., Barack Obama: The De Facto President of the United States-Maybe a Born Citizen But Not A "Natural born Citizen"
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2013/01/barack-obama-de-facto-president-of.html (1/21/2013)
2. Leo Donofrio, Esq., “Why Obama Is Ineligible – Regardless Of His Birthplace,” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881 (4/01/2010)
Based on Minor vs. Hapersett, 88 U.S. 162, the Supreme Court defined "natural born citizens" as "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens."
"Natural born citizen" is defined as the purest form of citizenship, requiring both jus soli ("law of the soil") citizenship and jus sanguinis ("law of the blood") citizenship—with BOTH parents being citizens.
US citizens, even if born in the US to parents who were both US citizens, who have any foreign citizenship, no matter when or how acquired, are not eligible to be President. This issue has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. It's a question of loyalty and avoidance of even the appearance of conflict of interest. Nothing more, and nothing less.
The only explicit definition of "natural born citizen" in the historical record, that was provided by one of the Founders, defines it as meaning a person born in the country to citizen parents. No testimony from any other Founder or delegate of the Constitutional Convention exists that claims any other definition.
Obviously obama was not vetted properly and by his own admitted parentage, he's ineligible to legally hold the office of POTUS.
Minor vs. Hapersett used the 14th Amendment as the basis for its second principal holding concerning the right to vote, but not for its first principal holding concerning whether or not the petitioner was a US citizen (court decisions can involve multiple holdings, which are the precedent-setting decisions the court makes in order to decide the legal and/or factual issues before the court in a particular case.)
The Court in Minor determined that before it could decide the issue of whether the petitioner (who was an adult White woman) had any Federal right to vote based on the 14th Amendment, it first had to decide whether or not she was a citizen, and if so on what basis?
The Court held that the petitioner was in fact a US citizen, and had been such from birth, before the ratification of the 14th Amendment. The reasoning the Court used to reach that holding is actually central to the question of the Supreme Court's definition of "natural born citizen."
AND...that definition is pivotal regarding obama's legitimacy to hold the office of POTUS...reason why? Re-read above.
Does Bill O'Reillycite any credible sources?
This is not Bills theory. It's. Yours
Enough power and money can erase about anything!
I wrote the article in the Center for Western Journalism - you left a comment. There's still some weird questions here. If Obama had a certificate of live birth in Hawaii, his mother would have taken a photo of herself and included his birth certificate on her original passport. Bill O'reilly is saying that she got married and Soetoro adopted her son? And he traveled with little Barry Soetoro - and his mother traveled on her own US Passport? Then she goes over to the consulate in Jakarta, and fills out the form she should have filled out in Hawaii? She tries to add him to her passport? If she wanted to add him to her passport, all she had to do was take a photo and cough up the Hawaiian birth certificate. Instead, the Passport Office crossed out his name - and for lack of a better idea, she takes him back to the US and puts him in Federal custody? why would she risk putting him in Federal foster care? I like my story better - I guess Bill O'Reilly should cough up his documents if they're public record - I dunno??? Sounds plausible until you consider that most mothers would never let their kids sit in Federal Foster Care - Unless She was deported from Indonesia and was forced to come back to the US. Why didn't she just stay in Indonesia and never come back? If she didn't like the US, and didn't want her son to live here, why did she bring him back at all? lhodges75@hotmail.com
it's not a hocus pocus, just look at the Indonesian antara news called obama siswa angkatan ke dua SD assisi in 17 maret 2010 (March 17 2010) edition and if you like to know how to prove that then you can contact me soon. just express your curiosity in here and I will tell you on how to get it. It takes an Apache to track down another Apache
Before I go I just wanted to tell you all the case is never about his Indonesian citizenship but more on his dual citizenship according to the US law. should you all see my work then you'll understand how to nailed this SOB BS
“Based on Minor vs. Hapersett, 88 U.S. 162, the Supreme Court defined "natural born citizens" as "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens."
"Natural born citizen" is defined as the purest form of citizenship, requiring both jus soli ("law of the soil") citizenship and jus sanguinis ("law of the blood") citizenship—with BOTH parents being citizens.”
Congress can change naturalization law but cannot change the meaning of “natural born (US) citizen” as the term is contained in the Constitution. Congress cannot amend the Constitution by re-defining words and phrases comprising the Constitution.
Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 207 (1920)
The meaning of “natural born citizen” is the same now as in 1787. Emmerich de Vattel wrote an extensive essay on the subject, contained in his “Law of Nations” (1758). The framers were intimately familiar with Vattel’s book. As the independence movement of the British North American Colonies had not begun, this work was not influenced by the Americans whatsoever. Most of the nations of Europe were monarchies.
Natural born US citizenship is so valuable that no one loses his citizenship by other than his own positive repudiation of his citizenship. And then, his repudiation will not be accepted by the US State Department until he presents irrefutable proof that another national sovereignty has conferred permanent citizenship on him. It is very much against public policy to allow anyone to make himself stateless.
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